Favorite Things about TMNT

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1. Who is your favorite turtle and why?

2. Who is your least favorite turtle and why?

3. Who is you favorite character overall and why?

4. Who is your least favorite character overall and why?

5. What is/are your favorite couple(s) and least favorite from TMNT?

6. What is your favorite thing that happens from TMNT? (like the theme for example)

7. What is your least favorite thing that happens from TMNT?

8. What is your favorite mutant?

9. Who is your least favorite mutant?

10. If there's anything that you would like to change from the newest series of TMNT (2012 version), then what is it?

My version:

1. Who is your favorite turtle and why?

My favorite turtle was always Mikey, from ever single adaption. I don't know why, maybe he reminds me of my little sister? Also, Donnie became my new favorite since he's more fleshed out in the 2012 series. Plus Donatello also reminds me of my older brother since he's also good at technology.



2. Who is your least favorite turtle and why?

I actually don't hate them all... But there are some versions of them I cam to dislike. (mainly the two most overrated brothers)

2003 Leo - My God...... Usually, Leo was always one character I can somewhat relate to in a few adaptions (mostly the 80s cartoon, 2012, and IDW comics) but however, his 2003 incarnation always bored the hell out of me even as a child C: 
But why? Well I didn't hate him then, but he was just so damn boring and bland.... But as I rewatched the series, my God.... I just grew to dislike him a lot in that version. I mean, its no wonder why I prefer his other brothers more, hate me but IMO 2003 Leo cam across as a very bland gary-stu character. I mean, I'll admit he had his good moments (Even in those episode with Usagi, who I think makes a better leader than 03 Leo) but sometimes I found him rather to be an ass. Plus, he talkes the whole "honor" thing WAAAAY too seriously.
I get that the 2003 series is a closer adaption to the Mirage, but it doesn't mean the Mirage comics themselves were always good. That's why I prefer the IDW more than Mirage comics, 2003 series did have good things, but I hate how overly preachy and overly serious they made Leo in that version. He also reminds me of other overly serious blank state protagonists I couldn't stand (Kirito, 2003 Robin from Teen Titans, Cloud Strife from FF 7, and Squall Leonhart from FF 8 -___-) Doesn't it hurt the writers to give this dude flaws?

Now 2012 Leo I'll admit makes a shitload of stupid mistakes, but eh... He felt more realistic as a teen since he had a believable development. Same thing with the IDW Leo, Overly serious protagonists however can make a series turn dull.  And who cares if Leo started out naive and goofy in this version? Still better than having him be "Mr. Perfect hero" all the damn time.


But anyways 2012 Raph was another least favorite. I don't exactly hate him like 2003 Leo, but he always came off as an ignorant ass. (and sometimes, a jerk sue in a way) Plus his fucking fanbase is rabid as hell, (my little sister can be an example as that, but she's little...) but I hate how everyone sides with all the hypocrisy Raph has when it comes to his brothers and Casey. I mean, Raph DOES HAVE GOOD MOMENTS. However, I think the writers need to learn giving a character too much flaws won't prevent them from being a sue. He needs an equal balance between positive and negative traits.

Funny thing, I actually like 2003 Raph because he has the good balance of positive and negative traits. (If only 2003 Leo and 2012 Raph had this character balance, it would be great)

3. Who is you favorite character overall and why?


Leatherhead - Why? Because this gator has been through so much development and it amazes me on how much growth he's been trough. Sure he started as a silly villain in the 80s cartoon XD But ever since the 2003 series, he really grew onto me because he's been through so much trauma and a sad past.  But he's very loyal to his friends and I don't blame him for having PTSD through horrible shit he's been though.
And I was even more happy that even in the 2012 series and IDW comics that they kept the same origin as the 2003 series, even in the 2012 series he's shown to have such loyalty an badassery in that version. I was so scared that the writers killed him off at times, but once I saw him join aside with the Mighty Mutanimals, I was so happy! He really deserved it so much!
I'm hoping he'll join them in the IDW universe soon since he did in the Archie comics and 2012 series.

Bebop and Rocksteady - Like Leatherhead, they two started out as very goofy villians like LH in the 80s cartoon... But damn, they sure were so funny as hell! I was so happy that the 2012 series and IDW comics brought them back, because they seemed a bit more fleshed out in those versions. Along with the 2016 movie, I was just amazed with their performance.
It could be me, but these two remind me of a female version of Poison Ivy and Harley Quinn in the TMNT universe, but a bit more brutal and monstrous.
I'm also enjoying the Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything comics, but despite these two being brutal assholes, they did go through a tough past in the comics, I can't honestly blame them for how they turned out.


2012 Splinter- Unlike most of his carnations, he was the most relatable in this version. I mean, while he can be serious, he can also have a sense of humor. Plus, I always like the idea of him actually being Hamato Yoshi in this version since it just makes more sense. I also do feel sorry for him and Shredder in the past, since they had a shitty father who manipulated them in their past. He started out over protective over the boys, but can you blame him? He went through something traumatizing and how insane Shredder was, however he lets them go off on their own to make themselves grow stronger.
Plus, he does actually go out at times just so he can fight his own battles while the turtles, April, Casey, and the others battle their own. He's very devoted to not only the turtles, but April, Casey, and all of his other friends/allies. He even admits, he himself is not perfect and had done mistakes. While he will get sad times about his past, he still does his best to move on and actually does let Karai have her own choice to choose her own path.
Unlike his father Yutta (who should had been the one to teach Oroku aka The Shredder that he can't force himself on somone to love him) has even taught Donnie to never force himself on others. Sadly, the fandom missed that point. Donnie actually gotten better/tone down with his crush since Splinter didn't want him to end up like how The Shredder did with their rivalry over Tang Shen. (and at least Donnie cares about Casey just as much as he does with April. Their arguements are more like comedy gags like Ryoko and Ayeka from Tenchi Muyo )
Overall, he's a hell lot better as a mentor than Kami Sama from DBZ, his shitty dad Yuutta, and Yamamoto from Bleach. 2003 Splinter was okay but he had a bad habit with coddling the turtles... 1987 Splinter wasn't that appealing, his IDW counterpart seems okay so far.

Also, I love IDW and 2012 Karai a lot better than her 2003 counterpart since she serves more of a purpose in those two versions.



Shinigami is slowly becoming a favorite, but I'm waiting. 

4. Who is your least favorite character overall and why?


I am gonna get so much hate because I have unpopular opinions for this but I don't care.....

Hamato Yutta (2012 series, or their father in most adaptions in general) - But why? Because he is one of the worst pathetic excuses of a father/mentor I ever seen! Because he actually murdered the Footclan in the bast, took Oroku as a baby, and pretty much lied to him throughout his entire life. He claims to be a caring father, but they does he always favorite Yoshi more than Oroku?  get Yoshi is his blood child, but it doesn't mean he has to treat Oroku like shit.
I mean, how fucked up is that? He lied to Oroku for all these years and once he found out the truth, he was in rage and wanted revenge and there you have him now as The Shredder! He's the main reason why Oroku Saki became The Shredder in the first place! I mean, Shredder was so hurt by this that he later repeats this shit with Karai!
As much as I love Splinter, I felt like he wasted his time to defend a shitty ass father like Yuuta. (Then again, I also blame him for how Splinter came out as well as Tang Shen. Its all his fucking fault afterall)
Plus he's secretly been the villain through the whole series IMO

Mondo Gecko's Parents (2012) - Seriously! People bitch about Pigeon Pete, 2012 April, 2012 Donnie, 2012 Leo, and 2012 Casey because they're "assholes" BUT never about these fucking asshole parents?! WHO THE FUCKING HELL ABANDONS THEIR OWN CHILD AND KICK HIM OUT FOR BEING A MUTANT?!
Like my friend had said, his parents are like those LGBT+phobic parents who disown their own child for not being straight!
Also Mondo's hatedom is very rabid in the 2012 series, because "he's too annoying and cocky" true, but its not his fault that he came that way! I mean, his parents are the main reason why he acts like a prick!  Thankfully, Mondo has a better place with The Mighty Mutanimals. His parents deserve more hate in the fandom anyways.

Lord Dregg- Fucking sick digusting prick and shitty villian with a shitty reasob to be evil. Both the 1987 and 2012 series, glad Ciro killed him off in that stupid space arc.

Agent Bishop (2003 series)- Another unpopular opinion.... Okay, I get he's a villain and had a sad past and all BUT THIS GUY WAS FUCKING INSANE. KILLING ALL MUTANTS AND ALIENS? HE'S LIKE HITLER 2.0. I can understand if people only like him for as a villain, but he did so much unforgivable shit that I just can't get myself to like him. I'll never forgive him for what he fucking did to Leatherhead and Donatello in that series. Bebop and Rocksteady along with Alopex and Baxter are better villians anyways, more interesting, and had better reasons to be evil.

That fat Mafia dude from TMNT 2012 - Same reasons as Agent Bishop, BUT I still love the concept with the human vs mutants for equality theme.

Stacy (Bebop and Rocksteady Destroy Everything) - Stupid abusive cunt for all those shit she did to Rocksteady. Even if she was mentioned once, I hate how female abusers get less hate than male abusers. I also blame her for how Rocksteady came out in that version.

Tiffany (TMNT 1987)- A stupid shallow bimbo who still annoys me to this day when I watch the old cartoon....

Classic April O Neil (TMNT 1987)- Okay, VERY unpopular opinion I'll get hate for...... I love 2003 April, I actually like 2012 April, prefer IDW April more, I found Megan Fox April very boring, but I hate HATE THIS VERSION OF APRIL SO MUCH!
What is so even great about her?! Her good looks alone? She reminds me so much of Louis Lane, I want to vomit every time I see her show up!
People always claim that 2012 April is a horrible bitchy mary-sue/backstabber and how 2003 April was bland and honestly guys? Guess what? I actually like those two counterparts of April! At least those two started small but prove themselves worthy, kickass, and don't always rely on the turtles like a helpless doormat. Plus they are very caring for their friends and aren't shallow towards other mutants.
Unlike this version of April, who is the VERY opposite of those two! She acts so ungrateful for those who help her, puts herself in danger all the time, and she comes off as a shallow bimbo to other mutants! Putting her work over the turtles and friends just pisses me off about her.
I will admit 2012 April has some mary-sue traits BUT she's more of a borderline sue. (Borderline sues can be redeemable at least) 80s April was more of a jerk sue and it makes me cringe so hard.
If I were one of the turtles or Irma, and it someone acted that ungrateful to me, I would ditch the bitch to Bebop and Rocksteady.
1987 Mona Lisa should had taken her place, she at least isn't a damsel or a jerk sue.


5. What is/are your favorite couple(s) and least favorite from TMNT?

Favorite Pairings: (Don't like my ships? Its okay, to disagree. )

Apriltello - Okay a base breaker pairing, people either love it or hate it.

Guys, I felt like out of all TMNT 2012 pairings, this had much more build up/development at least. I mean sure it may seem superficial for Donnie's part at first, BUT he does see there's more to April than just her looks alone. The two had been through a lot together, fought by side, and defended each other. Plus, its sweet that Donnie does go through all those trouble to save her father and how April went through all that trouble for him and his brothers. I'll admit, I don't like how Nick ship teases and makes April mood change sometimes... But so far, I think its getting a bit better. Sure, this pairing might had been handled better in 2003, but it seems like they're improving slightly in the 2012 series.
As my friend said, they had so much development through the series and do have more chemistry than any other character in the 2012 series. She also told me they are like a genderbend version of Naruto and Hinata <3 
Also for God's sake, Donnie doesn't have a stalker obsession with April! Its fine to hate a ship, but how is Donnie a stalker over a crush? I mean Marionette from Miraculous Ladybug and Juvie Lockser from Fairy Tail pretty much do the same stupid things that Donnie over their crush, but nobody bats an eye. (Plus I find that sexist that people find guys' crushes creepy for being male, but if your a girl its alright :/ )
As I said before "Splinter ACTUALLY taught Donnie to never force himself on anyone." and if you guys payed attention to the series, Donnie got better and toned down with his crush. While "A Foot To Big" isn't my favorite episode, I never consider it canon. Why? They had a newbie writer to write it and almost everyone was OOC in it, not just April herself.(Raph even had the worst OOC in that episode) plus if the episode never happened, it won't change much in the series. its better off without it.
Guys, just so you know, there are characters that have DONE MUCH WORSE than Donnie with their crushes. (Just look at stalkers and rapists like Prince Demande from Sailor Moon, Frollo, Orihime from Bleach, Lucy from Elfen Lied, Kisshu from Tokyo Mew Mew, and Lezard Valeth from Valkyrie Profile.... But for some reason, those guys get praised for their creepy obsessions -__- ) I mean I'm not saying you have to like the ship, but eh... The SJWs and tumblrinas however treat Donnie like a rapist when he's not
Now, if Apriltello doesn't happen, I'll be okay with it. I also support Apriltello as a platonic ship and Jonatello is my backup ship anyways (yes I love Casey x Donnie, sue me)
Also, I do ship Donnie with OCs as well, as long as they aren't bland mary-sues or jerk sues.

- 2012 Leorai - Maybe not the same as Apriltello, but its more of a platonic ship for me. They had a slight build up as well, but do suffer from some conflicts. But guys, Leo is concern about someone who's been manipulated and lied to by their own father, can you blame him? The reason why I say platonic is because, I'm not sure it will happen in this version. But I love the idea of a platonic bond between the two. At least it wasn't bad as their other counterparts.

- Alopex x Raph x 1987 Mona - I dunno, I guess these are the only Raph ships good enough for me. Love how Alopex and Raph were in the comics and I do love Raph's interaction in the 80s cartoon, much better thought out than what the 2012 series through us in canon.

Mikey x Mondo Gecko (2012) -The only Mikey ship I'll accept and love, it makes more sense to me and I really plan some awesome ideas for these two. Plus I headcanon Mikey pansexual (because he seemed like he had a thing for Chris, LH, Renet, and Shinigami regardless of their gender) while Mondo is a closet bisexual and it just sounds cute to me.

Raph x Casey - As a bromance and slash pairing, their bromance is so strong but I love them being rebel boyfriends too. Plus if Apriltello did happen, Casey should be with his best buddy

Bebop x Rocksteady - A guilty pleasure Even though I ship Darkwave with Bebop, this is a guily slash ship for me.

Capril (90s film and IDW version only) Okay, this was always my least favorite ship because it seems forcey at times and is always overdone.(even in the recent film, ewww) BUT I love their interactions in the movie so much due to their sass comebacks. I mean its so funny how they're opposites in that version XD And the IDW comics, I can say are much more developed, interesting, and healthier than their Mirage counterpart (They had an abusive relationship in the original comics, it was fucking scary.... Plus Gabby seemed suitable to Casey than April in those comics) and they're like Apriltello in the IDW comics since they're been through so much together.
I wanted to like the 2003 version of Capril but eh, it felt too boring/cliche.... Sure it was developed but eh, I couldn't get myself to fangirl over it like I did with the 90s films. I'm so glad the IDW comics gave me a soft spot for the pair again. NOTHING against 2012 Capril, but there was hardly build up for them :/ I sort of see them more as siblings and Casey just flirts with any girl he sees so I don't imagine how it would work with him and April. 
And honestly, I never really saw Casey as a character who cared for romance....(tho his relationship with Gabby was sweet) BUT I will admit that Capril in the IDW comics is very cute, sweet, and more interesting than most adaptions with Capril.


Some OC x Canon pairings aside from my one: I only said some, because eh... Most OCs are shipped with Raph and Leo.... I mostly like the ones that are paired with side characters that aren't the turtles XD But as long as they aren't mary-sues...... I'm supportive with these ships.

Least Favorite Ships:

2012 Ramona (don't hate it but it was a bit forced), Raphril (I love it until fanbrats ruined it) Most mutant x turtle ships (Even when most of the mutants are adult males and the turtles are underage boys, that's fucking gross/pedophilia ), and T-cest..... 

Okay T-cest does make me feel weird because the turtles remind me so much of me and my three siblings. My mom even pointed out before when she compared us to the turtles:

Me - Leo, my teen sister - Raph, my older brother - Donnie, my little sister - Mikey

So yeah.... That's why I don't like T-cest

Oh and Dr Chaplin x Karai.... HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN WORK?! I know Leorai wouldn't happen in the 2003 series, but the writers would had the common sense to keep Karai single! 

6. What is your favorite thing that happens from TMNT? (like the theme for example)

Seeing arcs that focus on the side characters are something I really enjoy! Or when they have big crossovers like the turtle generations meeting or going to Usagi's world.

I also love seeing brotherhood among the brothers whenever they bond and interact and even go through conflicts with each other.

Also, The Footclan fighting The Mighty Mutanimals is something I enjoy so much.


7. What is your least favorite thing that happens from TMNT?

 The damn space arcs..... Always despise them with a burning passion and my friend explained my thoughts on them XD



8. What is your favorite mutant?


 2012 and IDW Slash - Unlike the 80s counterpart, he has more character in the other versions. If you guys kept up with the 2012 series, Slash actually did felt remorse and felt guilty with what he did to the brothers. That being said, he started as an anti hero who was a bit naive with Raph's brothers (eh, I blame 2012 Raph for how he turned out anyways since it was his fault for making Slash go beserk) and he actually doesn't want to harm humans. He himself, actually wants to be equal with them and that's why he became the leader of the Mighty Mutanimals in that version. Also, best thing about his IDW self, he will never tolerate abusive parents like Hun for abusing poor Casey C:

The Mighty Mutanimals: (in every adaption) I dunno bout you, but I love these guys so much. Whether the Archie comics, IDW, or 2012 series, I always get excited to see them! They remind me so much of The Avengers, Justice League, and Team Chaotix and make such amazing allies to the turtles. I always wanted these guys to have their own spinoff series as well as their own live action film.
Hello guys! We need more anthromorphic heroes in comic book media after all.

Footclan Mutants (2012)- I love these guys along with Bebop and Rocksteady, they seem more like anti heroes than villians. I mean, they do make interesting villains in the show and I always wanted to see more of them. But I wish they had shown Rahzar's backstory as well as Bebop and Rocksteady's in this version.:/



9. Who is your least favorite mutant?

Spider Bytez and maybe a few from the 80s cartoon..... Don't ask why, they could have been much more interesting characters.


10. If there's anything that you would like to change from the newest series of TMNT (2012 version), then what is it?


-Episodes that focus on the other characters than just the turtles for once! I mean I like the 2012 series and they are the main BUT c'mon, the side characters always interested me more.

Plus, if shows like Wander Over Yonder and Steven Universe can put their focus on the other characters or villains for their POV like they did, I don't see why Nick can't do this.

- Fix the romantic subplots but still focus more on the action and comedy - Okay, the romance I don't mind BUT Nick needs to get some better writers if they want to add romance. But since its an action series, they should treat romance as spice just not the main ingredient. (But eh... You know how most female fans can be in fandoms when they only watch a show for shipping, that can explain so much)

TMNT 2012 does have flaws, just like 2003 and 1987 and some things just need to be fixed at least. But hey, at least its nowhere near like the shitty writing in the Bleach mangas and oh boy.... The romance in that was even handled out even worse..... Plus, most Bleach villians were pretty boring or just shitty. And Sword Art Online is more like a damn harem series -___-

I'm a bit glad its not as bad as those two BUT Ciro and the writers need to at least improve more. TMNT fans can at least acknowledge flaws in the series, unlike weeaboos who refuse to listen to crictism -___-


However NOT every show needs morals. I don't mind morals, but I don't want to be constantly reminded about the moral lessons every 24/7. TV isn't made to educate children guys, just to entertain them. And I'm sure not every sane person wants to be constantly preached every 5 minutes about the morals behind episodes. TMNT 2012 can have some morals, but I just hope they don't go overboard with it like their past cartoons did.



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